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when bill clinton was running for president before and it didn't happen. our tax rates were higher and the world did not implode. >> bill clinton cut spending. >> bill clinton did cut spending. >> that's correct. >> bill clinton was worried about deficits. be obama is increasing spending. he wants tax credits and spending subsidies. >> this is not what with tax cuts to higher people -- >> i will ask you about when he talks about energy he is not talking about fraking or shale. he is talking about more green energy spending. that's the difference between him and clinton. >> appreciate that. what i'm saying is if you don't like the same as it ever was, let's have a conversation about the bush years if we are going to talk about what worked and didn't work, bush's policies did not work. if you don't believe me, look at the 4.5 million jobs. >> what do you mean? >> 2008 until january 2009, we lost 4.5 million jobs. >> do you know over the same time span that bush created more jobs. the bush recovery created more jobs than the obama -- >> what was -- >> even though the recession was muc
measure. we read your progress in the 23 million jobs created under bill clinton when the average american family felt income go up by 7,500 instead of down 2,000 like george w. bush. that that's the standard he set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent middle class tax cuts. permanent middle class tax cuts so that take-home pay will go up. i'll give you the last word. >> i found myself strangely agreeing with your plan to cut the middle class and take away the deductions and keep tax rates for people who make a lot of money like you and i fairly high. i think that makes abundant good sense. but we're forgetting one thing. the biggest challenge may be even more than anything is our debt and our deficit. and i think with governor romney and paul ryan figured out was they can't give $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and still eat into the deficit, which
, here is a guy with a splend it baid backgrounn bill clinton said that. why is he unable to connect on the key issue of the day, jobs and the economy with i'm going to say the average person out there? what is missing? >> he is superbly skilled at the details but that's not what americans care about. so keith wants to talk about details because that's a terrible strategy. he doesn't care about the details of tax reform. americans want to know how am i going to get a job? why is it i've been in a job for three years and i haven't gotten a raise. he needs to get away from the details and -- >> hang with me. just what can we expect to hear from mitt romney in tonight's debate? who better to ask than senior campaign manager kevin madden. thank you very much for helping us. you know, my friend keith boykin asked a very good question that's going to come up tonight or is likely to come tonight and that is president obama will charge that mitt romney is four more years of george w. bush. how does romney get o from under the bush mantle? you know it's going to happen. obama is going to say
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